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Muchashca - Banned for Afking?
January 12, 2018
11:28 pm
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IGN (Your minecraft username):
Muchashca

Ban / mute reason (Copy what your ban message states): Reason:
Rejoin Script

Ban / mute date:
1/12/2018

Your side of the story (Tell us everything what happened, be truthful):
There's not a lot to the story. I've been playing for the last four and a half years, and am by quite a bit one of the oldest members of the server. I've played actively for most of that time, though taking occasional breaks when life was busy. I've always been known as a polite and helpful member of the community in that time, with a number of impressive builds along the way. I had a little extra time tonight, so I decided to play a few games of League of Legends. In between games, I'd log in to the server to build up a few claimblocks to work towards having space for future builds. The login times and the span of my games are easily demonstrable if desired.

According to RKKC, he banned me for breaking the following rule:
– Cheating the AFK kicker is not allowed. This includes using afk pools/carts/mobs, rejoin scripts or leaving a weight on the keyboard. Trying to cheat the AFK kicker will get you banned.

I never attempted to evade the afk kicker. I never used any script, tool, or exploit within the game to do so, nor have I ever.

According to the rules, and general understanding on the server, it is and has always been within the rules to be logged in but not actively playing, so long as you're not attempting to trick the auto kick script. This is a rule I've never broken. If the rules are going to be changed, regarded afking, for this new server, then I'd be all for it; however, the rules have not changed, it is currently and has always been allowed to leave the game open while doing other things. If that's something you wish to ban people for, at the very least make it against the written rules first.

As it is, I've been following every rule to the letter of the law. Please unban me, it would be a shame to lose two of the most active players on the server, especially when good, active players have been so desperately needed.

When was the last update of the server rules? (minecraft.dk/rules):
Dec 29, 2017

Edit: Before the ban, RKKC sent me a private message:
"Move please or you're banned."
which was received at 21:28:55
I was banned at 21:31:22, two minutes and 27 seconds later. As nice as that is, not immediately responding to a mod's message, so far as I know, is not fair justification for a ban. I had the game open on another screen than the one I was playing League on, but League is an attention demanding game, and it's not easy to stop in order to respond to a random message on minecraft.

January 13, 2018
2:56 pm
[Admin] 10becja
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You were actually kicked first, with a similar message stating that you need to move or be banned. You logged back in, gave no indication that you were actually logging in manually, as you simply sat there without moving. After a second message and still no movement, RK was completely justified in issuing the ban, as you were giving no indication that you were logging in manually or were paying attention to the game at all.

As for the situation with afking, you are correct: it's not against the rules to sit and afk and rejoin after being kicked. However, we've said on multiple occasions (documented pretty thoroughly with similar ban or kick situations) that if you are going to do this for extended periods of time, you need to make sure that you pay attention to your screen. If we suspect someone is trying to cheat the afk system, we test them by doing things that would be pretty obvious to someone who is even half paying attention to the screen. Since you didn't respond to any of the tests, we were forced to assume you were using a rejoin script.

You seem like a pretty reasonable person, so I hope you understand the chain of events here. I'm giving you the benefit of doubt as I don't recall you causing any trouble before and unbanning you, just make sure that if you are going to afk while doing other stuff, you move around every once in a while and pay attention to kicks with warnings.

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